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 楼主| 发表于 2015-12-21 11:41 PM | 显示全部楼层


OEX traders, while extremely bearish intraday (with cash close at 3.35), final adjusted closed at a more neutral 1.2. 63.4 millions outflow against SH, 13.3 millions outflow against SDS, 18.1 millions outflow against SPXU

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谢谢。还是不要太牛了。汗  发表于 2015-12-22 12:10 AM
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发表于 2015-12-22 11:35 AM | 显示全部楼层
how to calculate $oex intraday P/C ratio?   volume can be open new and closed in the same day, so next day, OI won't change much.  For this type of transaction, P/C won't be reliable information for trading.  right?

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OEX PCR is simply put volume / call volume. Surprisingly OEX volume PCR has a strong positive 24 hour to 48 hour correlation with subsequent SPX price behaviour - within certain bands  发表于 2015-12-22 10:44 PM
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-12-22 10:45 PM | 显示全部楼层
15.7 millions outflow from SH. SDS is flat and SPXU saw 4.8 millions inflow. Final adjusted OEX PCR closed at 2.8 - bearish.

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发表于 2015-12-23 11:19 AM | 显示全部楼层
smart money may have to wait for next year to redeem.  Santa rally is in full force. Tomorrow may close on the rang high, can be slightly higher than most recent high.
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-12-24 07:14 AM | 显示全部楼层
OEX PCR final adjusted is 0.63, in bullish territory. 15.5 millions outflow on Sh, 16.6 millions outflow on SDS. !5.4 millions inflow into SPXU.

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 楼主| 发表于 2015-12-25 02:37 AM | 显示全部楼层
OEX PCR final adjusted closed at 3.99 on Christmas Eve and all the short funds are flat.

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发表于 2015-12-25 08:42 AM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2015-12-29 07:52 PM | 显示全部楼层
csw2002, could you please keep us updated.   Or could you allow me to join your wechat group?  thanks a lot!

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I don't run any wechat group. Pls ask Wreckbeach for permission to join his group. I am in his group.  发表于 2015-12-30 12:39 AM
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发表于 2015-12-29 09:15 PM | 显示全部楼层
同楼上........

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See above  发表于 2015-12-30 12:39 AM
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-12-30 01:06 AM | 显示全部楼层
Sorry for missing yesterday's update. Yesterday had OEX PCR final adjusted closed at 2.1 on sell and 15.8 mil inflow into SDS, 18.7 mil inflow to SPXU - no change to SH. Today OEX PCR final adjusted closed at 2.26 - in sell zone. Oex oi pcr is at 3.45 another record. 12.1 millions inflow into SPXU, 8.7 millions outflow from SDS and SH is flat

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发表于 2015-12-30 01:38 AM | 显示全部楼层
csw2002,  thanks a lot!   
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 楼主| 发表于 2015-12-31 04:23 AM | 显示全部楼层
OEX PCR final closed at an extremely bullish number for the year, the lowest for 2015 at 0.273. All short funds are flat. Given we closed right on support and OEX traders' extreme short term bullishness (though the volume is small and I wouldn't put as much emphasis as I normally would), we could be going right back up to 2080 on Friday.

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发表于 2016-1-2 12:12 AM | 显示全部楼层
Happy New Year! 辛苦了
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 楼主| 发表于 2016-1-5 05:05 AM | 显示全部楼层
For Jan 4th 2016, OEX PCR Final closed at a bullish 0.66. SH saw no change whereas SDS saw 30.8 mils outflow and SPXU saw 16.5 mils outflow.

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发表于 2016-1-8 02:19 PM | 显示全部楼层
No update anymore?
Please keep posting!  
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 楼主| 发表于 2016-1-9 06:55 AM | 显示全部楼层
I don't see anyone reading and last week was a stressful trading week - hence I got a bit lazy.

Anyway, to give anyone who's still reading a total picture - I believe the market is close to a bottom timewise but not pricewise. I base this on the fact that SH has seen almost 100 millions inflow between Thursday and Friday. OEX PCR has been in bullish reading for both Thursday and Friday with Friday closing at 0.49. OEX OI PCR has finally dipped below 2 - from 3.x levels back in December. I am also seeing positive moneyflow into DJIA and this is also arguing for a bottom. However I don't believe Friday is the bottom because after such a severe decline, we are not seeing much panic. Instead of 30+ reading on VIX, 2+ reading on Trin, 1.4+ reading on CPC and 1.2+ reading on CPCE, we are seeing some anxiety but not panic as every dip gets bought. We need to see a day with a big gap down and then follow through selling from opening bell to closing bell with an after hour dump (and so far everyday we have seen intraday buying by stubborn bulls or scared bears). That day should finally result in a Trin/Vix/CPC/CPCE spiking into fear range. The next day, we should see a gap down with further selling in the morning - finally with big buying in late morning or afternoon to see a candle with long shadow. Normally on the third day, we should see the low on the real body of the candle retested and then we lift off - this will mark a sustainable bottom. Look at the Aug bottom 2015 and Oct bottom 2014 to get an idea what I am talking about. Another bottoming sequence would be similar to Sept 2015 bottoms where you see a consolidation range before final breakout.

Either way, the final few days of a bear move will see huge range and hence it's dangerous to get long until we confirm a bottom.

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welcome back  发表于 2016-1-12 04:43 AM
Thanks.  发表于 2016-1-9 08:08 AM

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发表于 2016-1-9 07:52 AM | 显示全部楼层
Thanks!
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发表于 2016-1-9 08:37 AM | 显示全部楼层
csw2002 发表于 2016-1-9 06:55 AM
I don't see anyone reading and last week was a stressful trading week - hence I got a bit lazy.

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Excellent observation and vivid description of the sentiment at the market bottom.  Thanks.
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 楼主| 发表于 2016-1-11 10:21 PM | 显示全部楼层
OEX PCR Final closed at 0.71 - continues to be in bullish territory. Similarly, another 39.8 millions inflow to SH. Almost 140 millions have flown into SH over the last 3 days. But with 30 millions inflow into SDS and SPXU being flat, and again, a complete lack of panic, I am not sure we are at a bottom yet. All I can say is that we are fairly close to a bottom but today may not be the one.

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