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gm正式破产了。。呵呵

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发表于 2009-5-31 10:29 PM | 显示全部楼层


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发表于 2009-5-31 10:37 PM | 显示全部楼层
我们居然成了GM股东,真TMD耻辱。
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发表于 2009-5-31 10:42 PM | 显示全部楼层
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别慌,我正给YAHOO FINANCE赶稿子呢:GM Soars on Bankruptcy Filing.
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发表于 2009-5-31 10:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2009-5-31 10:50 PM | 显示全部楼层
markets will gap up 100 pts tomorrow.
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发表于 2009-5-31 10:56 PM | 显示全部楼层
Do you guys know the average IQ of financial journalists?
elme 发表于 2009-5-31 23:01



IQ高低没关系,布什IQ不也是在平均线以下吗?
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发表于 2009-5-31 11:05 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2009-5-31 11:22 PM | 显示全部楼层
4# Cobra
顶!明天将是北伐军打过长江的一天!偶已经准备就绪了!
恐慌小猪 发表于 2009-5-31 22:24

Freefly also dreamed that.
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发表于 2009-5-31 11:42 PM | 显示全部楼层
GM问题的适当解决有利于市场。。。
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发表于 2009-6-1 12:59 AM | 显示全部楼层
我们居然成了GM股东,真TMD耻辱。
ppteam 发表于 2009-5-31 22:37


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发表于 2009-6-1 03:13 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 动感 于 2009-6-1 04:26 编辑

我太难过了,我对GM 有感情呀!  我开过的和正开的三辆车都是GM的, 他们的onstar的配置我也特喜欢。自从我经历一次高速历险安然无恙以后,我就认准GM的东东了,最近还对hummer蠢蠢欲动。我感恩不够彻底,没买它的股票。人工成本太高了 。哎,难过呀!100年企业也沦落到今日。
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发表于 2009-6-1 03:25 AM | 显示全部楼层
破产后对股价会有什么影响呢
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发表于 2009-6-1 06:29 AM | 显示全部楼层
美国联邦政府将持有新通用60%的股权,加拿大政府将持有12%的股权,
逍遥山人 发表于 2009-5-31 22:53


美国终于迈开了从资本主义走向社会主义的第一步。
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发表于 2009-6-1 06:32 AM | 显示全部楼层
GM这个,与其说是破产,还不如说是国有化。

与此相反的则是德国的大众汽车,原先是一个国有企业,现在变成私有企业了。而且政府拥有的法律规定的决定权也被新的法律取消了。所以保时捷和大众才能有现在的合并案。
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发表于 2009-6-1 06:33 AM | 显示全部楼层
通用汽车破产利弊谈-----华尔街日报


衰退刚刚显露出缓和迹象时,通用汽车公司(General Motors Corp.)可能申请破产保护──其中包括用几个月的时间削减工厂、品牌、员工和经销商──会威胁到美国的经济。但最终,通用汽车的破产可能有利于美国经济。

通用汽车和最早本周就能走出破产保护的克莱斯勒(Chrysler LLC)长期以来一直在消耗着本可以用于其它地方的人力和财力资本。即使在经济衰退导致销量下降之前,他们的汽车产能也超过了销售能力。研究与交易公司 ITG的经济学家巴贝拉(Bob Barbera)说,规则是你的资源是稀少,你希望能够明智地进行配置。

REUTERS
福特汽车位于密歇根州一家工厂的工人正在生产2009 F-150皮卡
如果通用汽车的破产像政府计划的那样平稳进行,那么通用汽车将在两、三个月内脱胎成为一家更加精干的公司。随着时间的推移,工人和其它资源将转移到生产率更高的经济领域,从而推动经济发展。翼子板厂的电工可以在燃料电池制造企业中找到工作;供应商可能会从生产传输系统零件转型生产风力涡轮机的零部件。

固然,在达到这一目标前将不可避免地造成痛苦。这家汽车制造巨头在美国雇用了大约9万名工人,并间接维持着更多人的生计,从肯塔基州亚什兰的钢铁厂到印第安纳州贝德福德的理发店。通用汽车的破产在短期内肯定会损害到经济,不过如果它和克莱斯勒要进行混乱而旷日持久的破产,情况要好得多。

据位于密歇根州安阿伯的非盈利机构汽车研究中心(Centre for Automotive Research)说,在那种情况下,今年美国经济将额外产生130万人的裁员,足以将失业率推高接近一个百分点。

这其中,由于福特汽车(Ford Motor Co.)和外国汽车制造商下属美国工厂的供应链可能受到打击,有203,800人将会失去工作。此外,向汽车制造商和汽车零部件制造商提供商品和服务的企业将新增460,700名失业者,而失业工人削减开支将带来659,500人失业。明年,美国的就业岗位还将减少446,700个。

克莱斯勒和通用汽车快速、简洁的破产重组预计今年将导致约63,200人失业,明年可能还有179,000人。汽车研究中心研究员门克(Debra Menk)说,这仍是个影响,但却是能够忍受的影响。

破产也打击了政府希望通过经济改善支撑汽车制造商的努力。沃顿商学院经济学家迈克杜菲(John Paul MacDuffie)说,后一种选择不能解决根本问题。无数美国人心中都存在着(美国汽车)质量不可靠的阴影。迈克杜菲估计,日本企业生产的轿车通常会比同类美国轿车高出2,000至3,000美元,主要是由于实际上和感觉上的质量差异。

因此两家公司脱离破产保护后能否成功的关键取决于它们解决质量问题的程度。迈克杜菲说,如果它们成功,将会有利于经济。他说,汽车业的一举一动将对其它行业产生巨大的前导性效应。

例如,美国汽车制造商通常会开发其它制造商已经在使用的技术和工艺。在成本意识上升的美国消费者不愿像以往那样花费之前,制造商需要发挥更大的作用。如果它们不能生产出更多世界其它地区青睐的产品,那么美国经济将可能面临更漫长的复苏之路。

不过,凯斯西储大学(Case Western Reserve University)维德罕管理学院经济学家赫尔珀(Susan Helper)说,通用汽车要想发挥这一作用,重要的是在破产中认真考虑要裁减的人员。如果失去了主要的工程师、设计师和其他工作人员,它在未来生产所需要车型的能力就会受到限制。她说,我真的担心失去以后需要的专业能力,这是很难从日本和德国买到的专业知识。

Justin Lahart
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发表于 2009-6-1 06:34 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 xiaobailong 于 2009-6-1 07:36 编辑

下一步,被国有化的会不会是GE? 然后是GS? 正好都是G打头的,归了Government也不用改缩写哈。
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发表于 2009-6-1 06:35 AM | 显示全部楼层
以后GM 就等于 Government Motor了。
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发表于 2009-6-1 06:44 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 动感 于 2009-6-1 07:45 编辑

33# xiaobailong

马克思老人家一定偷着乐呢     

小白龙斑竹早哈 ,您真敬业呀,这么早就上岗了!我也要想你您学习哈,不过现在学不了了,我要睡觉去了 。借着资本转换的春风,我战了一晚的future. , 愿小白龙白天替我多抢点,实现资本共产哈 ,Have a nice day!
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发表于 2009-6-1 07:01 AM | 显示全部楼层
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Have a nice day
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发表于 2009-6-1 08:13 AM | 显示全部楼层
Who Will Gain From the GM Bankruptcy

    * Rick Newman
    * On Monday June 1, 2009, 8:25 am EDT

    *
      Buzz up!
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The huge General Motors bankruptcy is the best of several bad options for America's biggest automaker. By allowing the company to shed debt, unload its weakest assets and rapidly streamline, the Chapter 11 filing allows GM to stay in business, become competitive once again and someday return to profitability.

But it also imposes pain on millions who cast their lot with GM over the years. Stockholders will lose virtually the entire value of their holdings. Some bondholders, like big banks and other investing firms, will lose a portion of their investment. Others, like retirees and families who bought GM bonds thinking they'd be a safe fixed-income investment, could lose a lot more.

[See which stockholders will lose the most from the GM bankruptcy.]

The bankruptcy also gives several GM competitors a boost. Here's who stands to gain the most (not including the bankruptcy lawyers):

Ford. It's got financial problems of its own, but GM's crosstown rival looks like it may be able to solve them without declaring bankruptcy or asking for a bailout. That puts Ford at the top of a troubled domestic heap. "Ford's in a good position," says Craig Cather, CEO of forecasting firm CSM Worldwide. "Anybody who wants to buy American would be likely to have more confidence in Ford than in GM or Chrysler."

CSM predicts that Ford's U.S. market share, about 16 percent now, could rise to nearly 19 percent by 2015. With overall industry sales expected to rebound nicely by then, a few extra points of share could push Ford's overall U.S. sales from about 1.5 million this year to 3 million by 2015. That would be a huge gain almost certain to propel Ford past GM as the biggest U.S. automaker.

[See how buying a car is going to change.]

Chrysler, the other domestic automaker, probably won't benefit from GM's woes. Even though it will emerge from bankruptcy sooner than GM, Chrysler still has a weak product portfolio, and new vehicles from partner Fiat won't arrive for a couple of years at least. CSM predicts Chrysler's U.S. market share will dwindle from about 11 percent this year to a mere three percent by 2012.

Toyota. Japan's biggest automaker is losing money, too (recurring theme: the car industry is a really lousy business right now) but it's not in dire straits like its American counterparts. And Toyota's steady growth in the U.S. should continue. With GM getting smaller and Ford moving carefully for awhile, CSM's projections show Toyota edging out the two American carmakers to become the top seller of cars in the U.S. by 2011. If gas prices spike unexpectedly, Toyota could grow faster, thanks to its pole position in high-mileage hybrids.

[See why foreign automakers are more "domestic" than Detroit.]

Hyundia and Kia. Jack Nerad of car-research site kbb.com says that bargain-hunters concerned mostly about price tend to buy either domestics or Korean-made vehicles, since Japanese and European brands tend to be a bit more expensive. With GM and Chrysler looking shaky, "the Korean brands are likely winners," says Nerad. Both brands have been on the rise anyway, thanks to big quality improvements, base models that include a generous set of features, and surprise hits like the luxurious Hyundai Genesis.

[See how to tell if you should buy an American car.]

Imported minicars. They could come from Korea or China or India, but the odds are rising that more cheap, small imports will make it into U.S. showrooms. One possible entry point is Saturn, the money-losing division that GM plans to sell. With nearly 400 modern showrooms and a recognized brand name, Saturn could offer a foreign-based carmaker a ready-made retail network in the United States. Penske Automotive Group, one possible buyer, might try to sell cheap Korean cars as Saturns.

[See 7 American cars worth bailing out.]

General Motors. The biggest beneficiary of the GM bankruptcy may be GM itself. "They're going to be in a good position once they're out of bankruptcy," predicts Gary Dilts of J.D. Power & Associates. "GM has a pretty good product plan, and they're leaving 10 years of debt on the side of the road." The most important things for GM are minimizing the damage to its brand image, erasing doubts in car buyers' minds, and detaching the surviving divisions--Chevrolet, Cadillac, Buick and GMC--from the troubled parts of the company, which could wind through bankruptcy for months. If it does that, GM could bounce back smartly by 2011. Call it a counterconventional bet.
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