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[讨论] HSBC最新房贷利率0.99,不知道未来还会不会更低

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发表于 2020-12-5 07:32 PM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式


TORONTO — HSBC says it will offer rates below one per cent for some mortgages, which rate comparison website RateSpy.com says is a record low for Canada.

However, experts say the rock-bottom rate comes with costs of its own.

The bank is advertising a 0.99 per cent rate on its website for new five-year variable closed term mortgages, with the annual percentage rate, or APR, based on a $200,000 mortgage.

The deal applies to high-ratio residential mortgages, which means the homebuyer has a down payment of less than 20 per cent of the purchase price.

Rates.ca and RateSpy editor Robert McLister says that's an important point, because the low down payment means the homebuyer will also have to pay for default insurance.

"If you're wondering, 'Is it better or worse to put less than or more than 20 per cent down?' It's better to put more than 20 per cent down, even though the rates are a little bit worse, " says James Laird, co-founder of RateHub.ca.

"Even if it means their mortgage rates aren't quite as good as the best available. The savings is on the insurance side."

HSBC says getting the rate depends on meeting a host of qualifications, including a credit approval, a borrowing period with an amortization of 25 years or less, and a property that will be owner-occupied.

The rate is also variable based on changes in HSBC's prime rate, which now sits at 1.46 per cent, so the rate could rise over the next few years as the economy mends and the Bank of Canada raises the borrowing rate.

Mortgage rates are currently low, after the Bank of Canada dropped its overnight rate amid the COVID-19 economic downturn. The Bank of Canada's overnight rate is 0.25 per cent, while its prime rate is 2.45 per cent and its conventional five-year mortgage rate is 4.79 per cent.

As the Canadian government notes, that "conventional" five-year mortgage rate is the "stress test" rate to qualify for a mortgage. With a stress test, the borrower needs to prove they can afford payments at a rate which is typically higher than the actual rate in the mortgage contract.

But banks often offer low rates, particularly on less risky insured mortgages, as a way to draw in new customers, says McLister.

"HSBC is counting on these customers buying other financial products," says McLister. "The mortgage is a gateway into your wallet."

Laird notes that the Bank of Canada would only need to raise rates a couple of times before the variable rate would exceed the fixed rate. HSBC is also advertising a fixed five-year closed term rate of 1.39 per cent for high-ratio mortgages, subject to similar conditions.

"Most people are going fixed right now, and they are extremely attractive as well. There's many offers in and around 1.5 per cent — in some cases lower — for the five -year fixed rate, which is just absurdly low," says Laird.

All said, the HSBC offer probably appeals to the minority of borrowers, given its conditions, says Laird.

But McLister says it can be worth looking at the policies set by individual banks in terms of penalties for breaking mortgages, since his sites' statistics suggest many people pull out after three or four years. These penalties can be "brutal," especially for fixed-rate mortgages, McLister says, making the variable rate worth looking into.

McLister also recommends against the strategy of trying to switch from a variable rate to a fixed-rate mortgage to "lock in" a lower rate.

"That's one of the biggest mistakes variable-rate mortgagers make. It's extremely difficult to time rate locks," says McLister.

"If you're that good at timing the bond market, you should be a money manager managing billions of dollars. I can't do it and I've been watching rates for 13 years."

This report by The Canadian Press was first published Dec. 4, 2020.
发表于 2020-12-5 09:00 PM | 显示全部楼层
针对首付少于20%的,这类人要买保险。这银行也是个够desperate的了。HSBC,得罪了中国,但他的生意大部分来自亚洲,这个银行前景堪忧啊。
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发表于 2020-12-5 09:16 PM | 显示全部楼层
看来银行贷款业务业绩不怎么样,年底了要大撒币了
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 楼主| 发表于 2020-12-5 09:30 PM | 显示全部楼层
stayintoronto 发表于 2020-12-5 09:16 PM
看来银行贷款业务业绩不怎么样,年底了要大撒币了

QE后银行资金泛滥,成交量就算历史新高也满足不了他们了。
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发表于 2020-12-5 10:05 PM | 显示全部楼层
stayintoronto 发表于 2020-12-5 09:16 PM
看来银行贷款业务业绩不怎么样,年底了要大撒币了

银行季报都还不错,最近。
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发表于 2020-12-5 10:53 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 lazybear 于 2020-12-5 10:57 PM 编辑

加拿大5年期的国债利率图。

6月高点是什么情况?FED尝试缩表的时候。不过暂时没成功。但是也可见FED的态度,能缩就缩,现在有了疫苗,市场一好好转,随时会缩表。

现在看图加拿大5年期国债利率又差不多回到高点了。不管什么原因,这条线确确实实实是从8月的低点在向上走。

HSBC做低利率贷款只能代表其想抢占市场份额的意图,并不算什么行业的风向标啊。说不定它虽然首推了1.99的低利率贷款,但是业务仍旧做不过其他商业银行和贷款机构啊。再说了,这个是浮动利率,等市场利率一旦全面上去了,0.99就是一时的烟花。
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发表于 2020-12-6 12:10 AM | 显示全部楼层
lazybear 发表于 2020-12-5 10:53 PM
加拿大5年期的国债利率图。

6月高点是什么情况?FED尝试缩表的时候。不过暂时没成功。但是也可见FED的态 ...

利率一路上扬,股市也要崩啊。
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发表于 2020-12-7 12:01 AM | 显示全部楼层
Cobra 发表于 2020-12-6 12:10 AM
利率一路上扬,股市也要崩啊。

长端利率一路上来也没见股市崩啊,都快翻倍了吧。fed压住短端。
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发表于 2020-12-7 12:04 AM | 显示全部楼层
lazybear 发表于 2020-12-7 12:01 AM
长端利率一路上来也没见股市崩啊,都快翻倍了吧。fed压住短端。

那是上扬的还不够。不看你的图,都不知道十年利率在涨,但是这个涨的程度并没有影响到银行的猫给鸡利率,所以暂时没有问题啦。
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发表于 2020-12-7 12:09 AM | 显示全部楼层
Cobra 发表于 2020-12-7 12:04 AM
那是上扬的还不够。不看你的图,都不知道十年利率在涨,但是这个涨的程度并没有影响到银行的猫给鸡利率, ...

有影响啊,之前加拿大银行有加mortgage利率啊。
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发表于 2020-12-7 12:25 AM | 显示全部楼层
lazybear 发表于 2020-12-7 12:09 AM
有影响啊,之前加拿大银行有加mortgage利率啊。

加这点没啥大影响。

我是说利率急速攀升的时候,股市会崩,当然啦,现在央行会出手干预,除非出现加币狂扁的情形,这时候央行只能加息,木有办法,参见,卢布。
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发表于 2020-12-7 12:26 AM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2020-12-7 12:29 AM | 显示全部楼层
Cobra 发表于 2020-12-7 12:25 AM
加这点没啥大影响。

我是说利率急速攀升的时候,股市会崩,当然啦,现在央行会出手干预,除非出现加币 ...

我明白了,你是要叫见崩盘的那种
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发表于 2020-12-7 12:30 AM | 显示全部楼层
lazybear 发表于 2020-12-7 12:26 AM
https://financialpost.com/news/economy/mortgage-rates-could-be-heading-higher-for-first-time-in-pand ...

利率稍微涨点问题不大,里当年7%,8%差远了,我估计到4%,5%,房市就会崩了,不用说到7%,8%了,现在央行就是想法子压低利率,否则问题就大了,为了压低利率,所以现在即使有通货膨胀也不承认了。我一直想,土豆发了那么多钱,恐怕疫情过后,通胀一下就上来了,这个是最直接的造成通货膨胀的做法:让大家都有钱。到时候央行是不是还假装没有通货膨胀啊,呵呵。
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发表于 2020-12-7 12:32 AM | 显示全部楼层
Cobra 发表于 2020-12-7 12:25 AM
加这点没啥大影响。

我是说利率急速攀升的时候,股市会崩,当然啦,现在央行会出手干预,除非出现加币 ...

日经指数你看不看?这个图是到顶了还是继续涨的图呢?
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发表于 2020-12-7 12:39 AM | 显示全部楼层
Cobra 发表于 2020-12-7 12:30 AM
利率稍微涨点问题不大,里当年7%,8%差远了,我估计到4%,5%,房市就会崩了,不用说到7%,8%了,现在央行 ...

同意,看之前2年房市情况,prime 利率到2%,贷款利率到4-5%,可能就会有问题。
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发表于 2020-12-7 12:39 AM | 显示全部楼层
lazybear 发表于 2020-12-7 12:32 AM
日经指数你看不看?这个图是到顶了还是继续涨的图呢?

这里附近也许回调,但是回调多半会被买起,不是能做空的图形。

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发表于 2020-12-7 01:02 AM | 显示全部楼层
Cobra 发表于 2020-12-7 12:39 AM
这里附近也许回调,但是回调多半会被买起,不是能做空的图形。



你觉得是大箱体强支撑对吧?这个位置回落大平台概率大吗?
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发表于 2020-12-7 09:45 AM | 显示全部楼层
lazybear 发表于 2020-12-7 01:02 AM
你觉得是大箱体强支撑对吧?这个位置回落大平台概率大吗?

下面那个大的平台碰到大回调将是目标,但是一般,一般啊,短期应该不会去那里。下图是最快去那里的走法,一般不会这么书本的。

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