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发表于 2014-2-17 07:05 PM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式


(Finished my work early today and started phone browsing. Won't have time to post from home tonight, so guess I will have to do with this work machine that is English only…Bear with me, will you?)

It is an arduous and thankless task to make stock recommendations at online forums. Even paid services make mistakes on a regular basis, no mention forum participants who are asking for nothing back, other than maybe a few "flowers" 'from "fans." In fact, I cannot think of a single ID across major Chinese stock forums in North America who has been 100% correct. (There was one Laoda who was about 90% accurate, but eventually he was pinned down for a single "bad" long-term stock pick, which suffered in the intermediate term but later turned out just fine, but I digress.)

To get back to the point, the more you share your opinions, the more mistakes (sometimes perceived mistakes) you will make. That is all well and good, but the mistakes risk being singled out and amplified by some people of "conscience" who feel obliged to "wipe your ass" (without making a judgement of who is right or wrong, I am simply quoting from recent posts here). That, you bet, is going to hurt the people who made the recommendations in the first place--feeling defeated, or rather unappreciated, they ask, "why am I wasting my time here?" Naturally, they go somewhere else, stop posting as much or stop posting all together. Now this is against the best interest of online forums, which is to share opinions and information.

So what can we do? Well, I think everybody can do something:

(1) For "newbies" (for lack of a better word) who are looking to benefit from others' opinions, be aware that opinions are just opinions and it does you little good in the long run to follow someone else blindly. Try learning to trade instead of hoping to get lucky.

(2) For posters who regularly share their own views of the market, you are valuable assets of online forums, period. So when you step into dog shit, shrug it off and move on. Pretty difficult to "shrug" off dog shit, you say? Yes, it is sticky and the smell follows you for a while, but at the end of the day, you make money while shit remains just shit.

(3) For forum readers who still believe in forums as a useful channel of information exchange, step up and be explicit when supporting the posters you have long benefited from. Let them know that they are indeed appreciated.

(4) For forum moderators, make early/fast intervention and be firm about it, especially when it comes to matters of principle.

(5) Finally, my personal mumble-grumble for oldpigwang: be constructive and considerate. Voice your different opinions early to help others avoid land mines, instead of bashing with ugly words afterwards. Maybe also be kind to other people's mistakes, especially on picks that were meant for a risk-aware audience (i.e., blogs for friends only).

PS: Well, this is fun, so NG_NM as collateral damage: stop molesting chinesebuffet, would you? Is that really your best way of "helping" and do you really feel good about it? Really? I just could not believe that chinesebuffet asked for it, as you have suggested many times, but what do I know… Maybe chinesebuffet proves me wrong and I have to be the one who apologizes to you...

Peace out.

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发表于 2014-2-17 07:24 PM | 显示全部楼层
谢谢大家支持胡同!

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发表于 2014-2-17 07:43 PM | 显示全部楼层
well-said。

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发表于 2014-2-17 07:54 PM | 显示全部楼层
诸位胡同朋友,股市是个复杂的系统。全世界没有人能够长期准确预测股市方向,哪怕是半年一年都做不到。有的话此人也决不会抛头露面,自己的独门绝活岂可与他人分享?最重要的是此技必是不能与众分享的,一旦有众人追随就不灵了,你懂的。于是我们这些尚不得要领的股民们只能靠自己的摸索各寻诀窍。寻不到诀窍只有追求那1%的Edge来小胜。中国人说三人行必有我师,来胡同就是相互学师,互通讯息,开阔眼界的。盲目追随某人的建议和预测只能说明本身还没有在股市亏惨过。说实话,玩转股市要的不仅仅是知识,智商,更要的是情商,是自我的认识和控制能力。这种能力应该也自然表现在参与论坛的态度上。冷静,客观,勤奋的人玩股票也必然有优势。希望各位胡同朋友本着来此相互交流学习的态度。记住一点:股市可以磨练人的性格,在你被出局之前。

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发表于 2014-2-17 08:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 NG_NM 于 2014-2-18 05:25 AM 编辑

dommy:

不会说谎的人,很难怀疑别人说谎。我已经PM给你。 希望你了解真相。如果你还不相信,可以请胡同调档。我已经告诉肥仔我不能继续这么做了。我不干这事了。

尽管一个论坛有两种声音是正常的,尽管我们有过约定,尽管很多人明白以后表示谅解,尽管......。但是我不需要任何人道歉。

很多人劝我说“你惹不起他们,你得不到什么好处”。我不需要“支持一下”,也不需要什么好处。我当初答应肥仔了,我现在应该背这个黑锅。

这是中文网坛,如果你能写中文,还是请写中文。否则你怎么全面理解我的言论。这么重要的文章应该用能打中文的计算机。Ipad 和 Iphone都可以。

记得前加大华人校长说:在美国人面前我们是美国人。在中国人面前我们是中国人。我佩服他。

谢谢。

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发表于 2014-2-17 09:16 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2014-2-17 09:27 PM | 显示全部楼层
文笔很好。赞。

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发表于 2014-2-17 09:28 PM | 显示全部楼层
NG_NM 发表于 2014-2-17 08:48 PM
dommy:

我已经PM给你。 希望你了解真相。如果你不相信,可以请胡同调档。我已经告诉肥仔我不能继续这么 ...

不是蛛网的事吗?你又怎么了?

股市还是开盘好,大家就不会吵架了
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发表于 2014-2-17 09:32 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 NG_NM 于 2014-2-17 09:35 PM 编辑
dsp 发表于 2014-2-17 09:28 PM
不是蛛网的事吗?你又怎么了?

股市还是开盘好,大家就不会吵架了


本来没事了,有人PS我一下。只好回答。我和肥仔的对话,远少于这些看棋支招的。没办法了。
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发表于 2014-2-17 09:42 PM | 显示全部楼层
well said!

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发表于 2014-2-17 09:51 PM | 显示全部楼层
写得好

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发表于 2014-2-17 10:07 PM | 显示全部楼层
NG_NM 发表于 2014-2-17 08:48 PM
dommy:

我已经PM给你。 希望你了解真相。如果你不相信,可以请胡同调档。我已经告诉肥仔我不能继续这么 ...

一直觉得你和腿哥菲大是朋友不知对不对。偶不知道什么真相,但很受益你们三人的发言。 感谢一下!
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发表于 2014-2-17 10:12 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 NG_NM 于 2014-2-17 10:15 PM 编辑
xiaoxiao08 发表于 2014-2-17 10:07 PM
一直觉得你和腿哥菲大是朋友不知对不对。偶不知道什么真相,但很受益你们三人的发言。 感谢一下!


谢谢你的敏锐与理解。

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这个可能51%的朋友看出来了。但是此前没有被确认过。谢谢骑马哥!  发表于 2014-2-17 10:37 PM
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发表于 2014-2-17 10:18 PM | 显示全部楼层
为棋王报仇,为猪王雪恨。为了两王,活捉学优。

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 楼主| 发表于 2014-2-18 01:21 AM | 显示全部楼层
bigbadwolf 发表于 2014-2-17 04:43 PM
well-said。

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 楼主| 发表于 2014-2-18 01:23 AM | 显示全部楼层
MM_Wu 发表于 2014-2-17 04:54 PM
诸位胡同朋友,股市是个复杂的系统。全世界没有人能够长期准确预测股市方向,哪怕是半年一年都做不到。有的 ...

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 楼主| 发表于 2014-2-18 01:24 AM | 显示全部楼层
NG_NM 发表于 2014-2-17 05:48 PM
dommy:

不说谎的人,很难怀疑别人说谎。我已经PM给你。 希望你了解真相。如果你还不相信,可以请胡同调 ...

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 楼主| 发表于 2014-2-18 01:25 AM | 显示全部楼层
dsp 发表于 2014-2-17 06:27 PM
文笔很好。赞。

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 楼主| 发表于 2014-2-18 01:26 AM | 显示全部楼层
ctcld 发表于 2014-2-17 06:42 PM
well said!

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 楼主| 发表于 2014-2-18 01:26 AM | 显示全部楼层
xiaoxiao08 发表于 2014-2-17 06:51 PM
写得好

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