中国从俄采购苏-35和拉达级 未来或买S-400导弹

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据央视《今日关注》栏目报道，中俄已签署苏-35战斗机和“拉达”级潜艇军售项目框架协议。未来，中国将从俄罗斯购买24架苏-35战斗机，中俄以2+2的形式为中国海军联合设计和建造4艘先进的“拉达”级AIP潜艇。预计未来中俄两国还将达成更多新的军事技术合作合同，如S-400远程防空导弹，117S大推力发动机。

未来或买S-400导弹

据央视《今日关注》报道 习近平这次访问前，中俄两国刚刚签署了两份重大军售框架协议，中俄合作建造4艘先进的“拉达”级AIP潜艇出售给中国，中国向俄罗斯采购24架苏-35战斗机，这是时隔近10年后中国首次向俄罗斯采购重大军事技术装备。

据称这次俄罗斯向中国出售的“拉达”级AIP潜艇静音能力十分出色，这4艘潜艇将以2+2的形式为中国海军联合设计和建造，其中两艘将在俄罗斯建造，另外两艘在中国建造。而中国向俄罗斯采购的新型苏-35战机被认为是最接近第五代战机的第四代战机。在中国隐形战机服役前，苏-35可有效减轻中国空防的压力。

预计未来中俄两国还将达成更多新的军事技术合作合同，如S-400远程防空导弹，117S大推力发动机、伊尔-476大型运输机和伊尔-78空中加油机等。

国防部新闻发言人耿雁生大校也在2月28日回答记者提问时表示，中俄军事技术合作保持了健康发展的势头，将进一步扩大合作，实现互利双赢。而需要指出的是，中俄军事技术合作不针对第三方，有利于世界和地区和平与稳定。

中俄军事合作升级

又讯 据新华社电 国务委员兼国防部长常万全上将24日在莫斯科与俄罗斯国防部长绍伊古举行会谈。

常万全指出，中俄两军关系是两国关系的重要组成部分。在双方的共同努力下，两军多层次、宽领域的务实友好合作不断发展，成为了两国全面战略协作伙伴关系的重要支撑。当前摆在两军领导人面前的重要任务是落实两国元首有关共识，深化和拓展两军交流与合作。中方愿与俄方一道不断挖掘双方合作潜力、拓展合作领域、提升合作水平，推动包括高层互访、战略磋商、联合演习、中青年军官交流在内的各领域务实合作，将两军关系不断推向新的高度。

绍伊古说，俄中全面战略协作伙伴关系不断丰富和发展，达到前所未有的高水平。俄方愿同中方密切配合，推动两军务实合作向更高水平发展。

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苏-35提升空军机动能力

“拉达”级潜艇有助提高中国核潜艇静音水平

国防大学专家表示，中国向俄罗斯采购24架苏-35战斗机以及合作建造4艘先进的“拉达”级AIP潜艇，可以提升空军的机动能力，改善潜艇部队的降噪和隐形能力。

这位不愿具名的学者认为，苏-35战斗机在机动性、作战半径、武器载荷、飞行速度等方面都优于美国第五代战斗机F-35，只是在隐身方面稍显落后。在机动性方面，苏-35战斗机甚至有能力对抗美国最先进的F-22A战斗机。

对于中国空军来说，苏-35战斗机综合性能优于中国同级别战斗机，在军事战术布置上，将对空军的战术研发起到关键作用，提升空军的机动能力。苏-35的发动机和雷达系统在国际上处于领先水平，这对于中国航空工业未来的发展也将提供相关借鉴。

该学者表示，目前新型苏-35战斗机除俄罗斯空军自用外，还没有向任何国家出口，俄罗斯主要的军售大户印度也不例外，这说明中俄两国在政治军事上的互信正在加强，未来中俄两国在军事上将有更为广阔的合作领域。

在深海中，潜艇的静音效果对于其隐形功能至关重要。这位学者表示，俄罗斯“拉达”级AIP潜艇具有先进的静音技术，中国引进“拉达”级AIP潜艇将有助于改善现有潜艇尤其是核潜艇的静音技术，优化潜艇战略和战术。

新京报记者 邢世伟

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Russia: No Deal on Sale of Fighters, Subs to China

Mar. 25, 2013 - 12:41PM |

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TAIPEI — Russia is denying Chinese media claims that Moscow and Beijing have signed agreements to sell Russian-made arms and military technology to China, including 24 Su-35 multirole fighter jets and four Amur-class diesel submarines.

During a recent visit by Chinese President Xi Jinping to Moscow from Friday to Sunday, no discussions took place regarding “military-technical cooperation” issues, the ITAR-TASS news agency reported Monday. This was in response to an earlier report by China’s CCTV on the same day.

“The Kremlin is officially denying even discussing arms trade during Xi’s visit,” said Vasiliy Kashin, a China military specialist at the Moscow-based Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies (CAST). “In Russia-China relations, specific arms trade contracts are almost never discussed by the top leaders, just the general approaches.”

Another defense industry source in Russia said there are strong reservations about going forward on the memorandum of understanding signed in December to explore the sale of the twin-engine Su-35s and Amur submarines to China.

China intentionally violated intellectual property right (IPR) agreements when it copied and manufactured Russia’s Su-27 fighter as the J-11B, according to Russia.

In 1995, China secured a production deal with Russia to build 200 Su-27SKs, dubbed the J-11A, for $2.5 billion for the Shenyang Aircraft Corp. In 2006, Russia canceled the deal after 95 aircraft when it discovered China had reverse-engineered the fighter and was secretly manufacturing an indigenous copy, the J-11B, with Chinese-made avionics and engines.

There are strong suspicions China will procure the technological know-how of the Su-35 and Amur and simply produce an indigenous version.

But not all agree. Gary Li, a senior analyst at London-based IHS Fairplay, said China’s research and development have moved forward.

“It no longer will seek to directly reverse engineer everything it buys, but maybe adopt parts of the platform for other projects [and] integrate into domestic designs,” he said.

There also are concerns China wants access to the Su-35’s Saturn AL-117S engine, which is outfitted on the T-50, a prototype of Russia’s fifth-generation Sukhoi PAK FA stealth fighter.

However, Kashin said the risks of selling the Russian engine to China are negligible.

“An engine cannot be copied by obtaining a sample,” he said.

Li said he could envision Chinese aerospace engineers studying the aircraft’s engine and thrust-vectoring for future inclusion, as well as the Amur sub’s air-independent propulsion, but it will still be more than a decade before China will stop having to order engines to replace “worn-out ones,” as it has been doing with the J-11 and J-10 fighters.

“It always takes a few years before they can make a domestic alternative,” Li said.

Kashin cautions that a Chinese attempt to copy the Su-35, as they did with the Su-27, would be more difficult, “because this time, our Ukrainian ‘brothers’ cannot help them by selling the Chinese all the technology they lacked for a handful of dollars. I think the Amur situation will be generally the same.”

Ukraine has been accused of selling China former Soviet defense technologies, but it has no access to information regarding newer systems, such as the Su-35 and Amur.

“The Amur ultimately isn’t a strategic submarine, and as Russia’s interests in the Far East are not yet that ambitious, they can afford to sell them to China,” Li said. “How better to keep the U.S. pivot off their backs?”