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[原创] deflation的不可能性

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发表于 2008-10-28 10:17 AM | 显示全部楼层


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猫老大很专业,pfpf
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-10-28 10:35 AM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2008-10-28 10:41 AM | 显示全部楼层

in a deflationary environment, nobody is gonna spend, because the goods will be cheaper the next day. Economy will contract, unemployment rate will rise, etc. This is the scenario the government is trying hard to avoid.

 

live lobster is only $3.99/pound in NY now, down from $7.99 a few month ago, talking about the power of deflation.

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 楼主| 发表于 2008-10-28 10:44 AM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2008-10-28 10:51 AM | 显示全部楼层

原帖由 ns5000 于 2008-10-28 11:44 AM 发表 第一,老大的美元变废纸不敢苟同。美元的实力是以美国的国家实力为后盾,没那么容易变废纸。美元在过去80年间已经贬值了90%以上,也还没有变废纸呢。到现在,危机一深化,照样升值,还是避风港。第二,如果是有美国印 ...

 

你漏了重要的一点,就是货币的流动性。

 

简单说,全世界每年以美元结算的贸易总量,和美元的货币总量是1:1吗?

 

没有流动性,货币总量再大,也不会引起通胀!

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发表于 2008-10-28 10:59 AM | 显示全部楼层

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US government gets too much debt in the form bill or bond. All of the promise of bill or bond are backup by its tax ability. With its tax revenue going down and debt going up, US will be in risk of default in one day by keeping increase its debt. The AAA will go CCC. Therefore US can't keep print money without thinking twice, so the deflation is one of very likely scenarios
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发表于 2008-10-28 11:00 AM | 显示全部楼层
如果美国deflation, the whole world is doomed. 跟当年日本的影响不可同日而语. 所以全世界会努力避免.
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发表于 2008-10-28 11:02 AM | 显示全部楼层

原帖由 zero 于 2008-10-28 11:59 AM 发表 US government gets too much debt in the form bill or bond. All of the promise of bill or bond are backup by its tax ability. With its tax revenue going down and debt going up, US will be in risk of d ...

 

这个有一个临界点,就是Tax money可以Cover Bond Interest。

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发表于 2008-10-28 11:10 AM | 显示全部楼层

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well, US has debt 10.xT today, and its GDP is 13.3T per year. Let's see how much more debt it can borrow without impacting it credit level
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发表于 2008-10-28 11:21 AM | 显示全部楼层

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US is not printing money? FED recently just wrote down about 2 billions from those MBS it swallowed in as collateral of lending to JP Morgan for the purpose of bail-out Bear Stearns. So how do you count these 2 billions? This is printing. As government has had several major off-schedule treasury issuance and going to have more for the 700B TARP, FED has participated in the auctions and swallowed in undisclosed amount of treasuries. Where does this money come from? It's printing.
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发表于 2008-10-28 11:25 AM | 显示全部楼层

原帖由 CoolMax 于 2008-10-28 11:51 发表   你漏了重要的一点,就是货币的流动性。   简单说,全世界每年以美元结算的贸易总量,和美元的货币总量是1:1吗?   没有流动性,货币总量再大,也不会引起通胀!

 

Hehe, there will depend on what's the price of oil? Because if it stay cheap, no country will need to keep so many USD as reserve.

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发表于 2008-10-28 12:55 PM | 显示全部楼层
How can we profit from the scenario:mlid deflation for a few months, then mild inflation for another few months, then, (wait and see, will ask a year fro now).
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