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[灌水] 05/27/2009 白天灌水

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发表于 2009-5-27 02:08 PM | 显示全部楼层


中国啦

209# Cobra  

但是,债市暴跌,说明资金出逃啊。
问题是这些资金去哪里了?
CoolMax 发表于 2009-5-27 12:04 PM
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发表于 2009-5-27 02:08 PM | 显示全部楼层
210# CoolMax


Do you know did Warrent Buffet and John Paulson park their money now?
colderdown 发表于 2009-5-27 03:07 PM


如果在跌之前买了债券,现在不是亏了吗?
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发表于 2009-5-27 02:09 PM | 显示全部楼层
嗯,俺今天的帖里已经解释过了,你说的大差不差啊。

Yield涨,一般情况是好事,但是涨的太高,就不是好事了,道理很简单,inflation,这个太玄,咱讲简单的,要是10Y bond给你10%的yield,你还买股票不?

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Cobra 发表于 2009-5-27 14:48


赞一个
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发表于 2009-5-27 02:11 PM | 显示全部楼层
222# CoolMax


Coolmax, please go and check those two's holding now.
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发表于 2009-5-27 02:12 PM | 显示全部楼层
麻烦了,mortage bond yield 这样涨,势必要拉起mortage interest rate, fed 还有怎么武器?减息?-0.25?
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发表于 2009-5-27 02:14 PM | 显示全部楼层
难道进股市?怕怕

209# Cobra  

但是,债市暴跌,说明资金出逃啊。
问题是这些资金去哪里了?
CoolMax 发表于 2009-5-27 15:04
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发表于 2009-5-27 02:15 PM | 显示全部楼层
麻烦了,mortage bond yield 这样涨,势必要拉起mortage interest rate, fed 还有怎么武器?减息?-0.25?
天真的冷酷 发表于 2009-5-27 15:12


涨le ma?what is it now?
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发表于 2009-5-27 02:16 PM | 显示全部楼层
出逃的资金看来并不愿进入股市
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发表于 2009-5-27 02:17 PM | 显示全部楼层
全美人民齐炒股,股市直上百万点。
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发表于 2009-5-27 02:19 PM | 显示全部楼层
我对债市的粗浅理解是这样的:
大家愿意买债券,债券的价格就涨,Yield就降。
大家不愿意买债券,债券的价格就跌,Yield就涨。

所以,现在的局面是资金从债市出逃,去哪里了?
股市是一个目的地,商品是另外一个,不过商品涨的话,股市也会跟涨。
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发表于 2009-5-27 02:19 PM | 显示全部楼层
今天黄金脱离美指,走出独立行情,11-12AM黄金的巨额交易量,没能推动金价飙升,1:00PM金价大跌,
2:00象征性的反弹,现又走上了不归之路。
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发表于 2009-5-27 02:20 PM | 显示全部楼层
如果开户没有金额要求,盈利不缴税,干嘛要creat job,只要全部来玩股票就好。马金放宽到100倍。
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发表于 2009-5-27 02:20 PM | 显示全部楼层
Treasuries Fall on Concern Record Sales Will Overwhelm Demand

May 27 (Bloomberg) -- Treasuries fell for a fourth day, pushing 10-year note yields to a six-month high, amid concern record U.S. debt sales will overwhelm investor demand as the economy begins to show signs of stability.

Government debt declined even as today’s auction of a record-tying $35 billion in five-year notes drew the most demand in three months from a group of investors that includes foreign central banks. The Treasury will sell $26 billion in seven-year notes tomorrow, the third auction this week.

“The reality is that we have one more auction left and a lot of supply,” said Kevin Giddis, head of fixed-income sales, trading and research at the brokerage Morgan Keegan Inc. in Memphis, Tennessee. “This is the beginning of a lot of sales. We are in a bit of a freefall.”

The decline in prices pushed 10-year note yields to 2.71 percentage points more than two-year securities, approaching the record of 2.74 percentage points set in August 2003.

The yield on the 10-year note rose 14 basis points, or 0.14 percentage point, to 3.70 percent at 2:25 p.m. in New York, according to data compiled by BGCantor Market Data. That’s the highest since Nov. 17. The price of the 3.125 percent security due in May 2019 fell 1 4/32, or $11.25 per $1,000 face amount, to 95 8/32.

The yield on the existing five-year note maturing in April 2014 rose 10 basis points to 2.40 percent. The 30-year bond yield climbed seven basis points to 4.57 percent.

The U.S. has raised $720.057 billion in new cash this year selling Treasury securities, while the Federal Reserve has purchased $130.5 billion in U.S. debt. The net new cash raised in 2009 by the U.S. is $595.523 billion.

Indirect Bids

The five-year notes auctioned today were sold at a yield of 2.31 percent, compared with an average forecast of 2.335 percent by eight bond-trading firms surveyed by Bloomberg News before the 1 p.m. bidding deadline.

Indirect bidders, the class of investors that includes foreign central banks, bought 44.2 percent of the five-year notes, compared with an average of 32.4 percent in the last 10 auctions.

Today’s so-called bid-to-cover ratio, which gauges demand by comparing total bids with the amount of securities offered, was 2.32, compared with a 2.17 average at the past 10 sales of the securities. The Treasury sold $40 billion in two-year notes yesterday and will sell $26 billion in seven-year notes tomorrow.

“The key thing is what happens to the seven-year tomorrow and that I don’t know the answer to,” said Andrew Brenner, co- head of structured products and emerging markets in New York at MF Global Inc., the world’s largest broker of exchange-traded futures.

Credit Rating

Ten-year Treasury fell the most last week since June 2008 as investors speculated a record supply of Treasuries to pay for a mounting budget deficit may jeopardize the U.S.’s AAA credit rating.

The U.S. government’s Aaa credit rating is stable “even with a significant deterioration” in the nation’s debt position, Moody’s Investors Service said today.

Speculation that the U.S.’s top-credit rating may be under threat has risen since Standard & Poor’s cut Britain’s outlook to “negative” from “stable” last week, citing the nation’s soaring debt burden. The U.S.’s $11.2 trillion of debt is about 79 percent of the $14.1 trillion in gross domestic product, according to Bloomberg data. In the U.K., the debt to GDP ratio approaches 100 percent.

The U.S.’s credit rating is supported by “a diverse and resilient economy, strong government institutions, high per capita income, and a central position in the global economy,” New York-based Moody’s said in a statement.

‘Lurking Concern’

“There remains the lurking concern that foreign demand is focusing on the short end, leaving the back end of the curve vulnerable,” Alan Ruskin, a global strategist at RBS Securities Inc. in Greenwich, Connecticut, wrote in a note today. RBS is one of the 16 primary dealers that are obligated to participate in Treasury auctions.

Increased debt sales and expectations that Fed officials will leave interest rates low as the economy begins to grow have led to an increase in inflation expectations. Ten-year breakeven rates, the difference between yields on 10-year inflation- indexed bonds and nominal Treasuries of the same maturity, touched 1.9218 percent today, the widest the spread has been since Sept. 23.

International investors are growing concerned that the pace of government borrowing will erode the value of their Treasury holdings. Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao stressed in March that China was “worried” about its investment in U.S. Treasuries and looked for government assurances.

Two-Year Auction

The nation, which is the largest U.S. creditor with $767.9 billion of debt, has shifted its purchases in recent months to shorter-maturity bills and notes from longer-maturity securities.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said today he sees indications that the U.S. economy is in the early stages of rebounding from a recession.

“The national economy is showing some initial signs of stability, confidence is improved, the financial system is starting to heal, credit is starting to ease a bit,” he said in Roxbury, Massachusetts. “It’s just the beginning, however. We have a lot more work to do to lay the foundation for a sustainable recovery with the gains broadly shared among all Americans.”

Fed Purchases

The sale of two-year notes yesterday helped ease concerns that foreign investors will abandon U.S. assets.

A move to higher yields is poised to pause, based on a gauge of momentum that traders use to predict price changes. The 14-day relative-strength index for 10-year yields rose to 72 from 57 a week ago, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Readings above 70 indicate yields will probably fall and prices, which move in the opposite direction, will rise.

The last time the figure climbed above 70 was on May 7. Ten-year yields fell 17 basis points in the next two days, the biggest rally since March 18 when the Fed announced a plan to buy government debt.

The Fed bought $6 billion of Treasuries maturing between May 2012 and August 2013 as part of the central bank’s effort to buy $300 billion of the securities over the next six months.
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发表于 2009-5-27 02:22 PM | 显示全部楼层
OUT FAZ at 5.29

drop to 4.x buy again
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发表于 2009-5-27 02:22 PM | 显示全部楼层
今天煤和钢铁强得一塌糊涂。看来还是大家看好股市前景

今天黄金脱离美指,走出独立行情,11-12AM黄金的巨额交易量,没能推动金价飙升,1:00PM金价大跌,
2:00象征性的反弹,现又走上了不归之路。
chameleon 发表于 2009-5-27 15:19
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-5-27 02:24 PM | 显示全部楼层
到下一个support了。抱歉,可能这么解盘很无趣,不过实在不能给买卖信号。

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发表于 2009-5-27 02:24 PM | 显示全部楼层
头痛!!!!  熊的机会终于来了!!!!
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发表于 2009-5-27 02:26 PM | 显示全部楼层
237# 天真的冷酷

有人今天盘后要喊三头了,呵呵!
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发表于 2009-5-27 02:26 PM | 显示全部楼层
covered too early?
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发表于 2009-5-27 02:27 PM | 显示全部楼层
231# chameleon

诡异呀。。。。 难道,债市的钱在黄金市场悄悄建立了?
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