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[技术分析] Perfect Wave - 2011-Q4

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 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-30 11:30 AM | 显示全部楼层


出去逛街了 :)
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发表于 2011-11-30 07:19 PM | 显示全部楼层
Thank you so much for your thoughts.
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-30 10:22 PM | 显示全部楼层
cat2011 发表于 2011-11-30 19:19
Thank you so much for your thoughts.

謝謝2011貓的迴響

偶對 "follow the trend" 的理解與實踐是:
從大處著眼 (大局觀)
從小處著手 (操作)
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-30 10:42 PM | 显示全部楼层
SP 最喜歡搞這招:

大家喜歡 5 波 好 它就來個 5 波
5 波 來了 哈 大家高興就一窩蜂上了
哈 它就來個 9 波
於是乎
那些在 5 波 尾一窩蜂上的人 全都割在 9 波 尾
於是乎 行情就這麼 反轉了
因為大家都 割了

那妳以為 9 波 尾 就安全了吧
搖搖頭 行情見太少了
它再給妳個 13 波
那些搞 9 波 尾 的人 又都掛了
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-11-30 11:26 PM | 显示全部楼层
inosine 发表于 2011-11-30 22:55 ... 有无什么高招或经验来大致粗略地看出一些苗头, 来hint 5后面有9? 如看pullback的deepness, o ...


問的好 但偶實在不知如何回答 因為偶一直都用猜的(憑感覺)
但一般如果 動能強勢時9波易見 超強時可見13波
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-12-3 05:17 PM | 显示全部楼层
12/03/2011

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发表于 2011-12-3 06:30 PM | 显示全部楼层
自从有了雪骑,俺在波浪运动的学习中,不再孤独。

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发表于 2011-12-3 06:35 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2011-12-3 06:45 PM | 显示全部楼层
Thank you for your update. They are really helpful. I have a question, why the purple lines are not in the same direction between SPY and EUR/USD?
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发表于 2011-12-3 06:47 PM | 显示全部楼层
sorry, my bad, they are!
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发表于 2011-12-3 07:11 PM | 显示全部楼层
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-12-3 08:07 PM | 显示全部楼层
从你图上看,周一100%下跌啊

fatbrick - 偶也不知道會漲還是會跌 偶只是猜猜看 看能不能矇到
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-12-3 08:26 PM | 显示全部楼层
大牛Steve 发表于 2011-12-3 18:30
自从有了雪骑,俺在波浪运动的学习中,不再孤独。

大牛 - 謝謝
偶十分瞭解這學習玩波的過程是恢常孤獨的
因為偶認為:
1. 波這東西是 TA approaches 中 最難的 (但也是最好的)
2. 玩波這事是從實踐中學習判斷 (沒有熟讀唐詩300首哪能吟詩?  沒有打過譜哪能下好棋)
3. 玩波這事是主觀的藝術判斷 (不是簡單的1+1=2 就算打過N個譜 也不一定下的了好棋)
4. 搞波這東西經常是站在少數的一方 (必須要有恢常強的心臟及冷靜的腦子)

哈!  波的確是好玩!
大波摸得舒服
小波更好來回把玩
  

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 楼主| 发表于 2011-12-4 12:52 AM | 显示全部楼层
上次没有认真领会图的意思 这回泰迪熊被整惨了 5555555555555
  
上次畫的這麼明白 泰迪熊應大賺 怎麼可能還被整惨?





不过看这次的图 新高是不可避免啊

對行情應隨時保持懷疑
千萬不可過度肯定
過度一定肯定 就是外婆在向你招手

等下到10月的低点1070她又会有截然不同的看法了

那當然
偶是中長期看大空頭的
偶看它走高 不過是要它 所謂的 破頭穿腳
要上破 才有下殺的強烈破壞力
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-12-4 01:07 PM | 显示全部楼层
Quote from iceman1:
...like the pretty purple color with the green; I have found dice work better than elliot wave analysis. ...

iceman1 - Glad that you like the combination of purple and green.  Elliot Wave analysis is very subjective so that different people could have different intepretations on a given chart, regardless the analysis needs to be based on some rules.  Since it needs to be interpreted, the result of analysis cannot be guaranteed like a scientific analysis as 1+1=2.  And since the analysis is by people while majority people lose on trading, there is no surprise that "dice works better than elliot wave analysis."

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... I am always curious when over the past 25 years I read all kinds of predictions, most of which never occur. Therefore, what exactly are you doing to implement your analysis?! How are you playing it ...

I guess that you have read lots of EW predictions from the famous RP's publications.  If so, I did the same thing too, but I stopped reading them and threw them all to recycle bin about 16 years ago.  That is a good question about the implementation of my analysis.  If I tell you the truth, you won't believe it.  All my wave counts are just my 6th sense guessing.  First, one needs to study RN's EW principle and remember his every single word, and then one needs to study charts by applying the principle.  An example of how to trade with EW, please read the following wiki link:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliott_Wave_Principle

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... is this some academic exercise with nothing really being risked. Anyone can make an educated guess on the market outlook, but few can trade it well.
...

Good point!  Very few people can trade solely by using EW ... at least I haven't seen one yet.  I would guess that the famous RP has never traded with his EW analysis; otherwise, he would have been wiped out long time ago.  EW is one of the hardest (if not the hardest) TA approaches to master.  EW is the major tool that I use on trading.  I trade on my preferred count (purple line).  If the market goes against my prediction, the grey line takes over and becomes the preferred count.  If both go wrong, I take a break.  If one wants to trade EW, market selection is very important.  It got to have good liquidity, and it got be widely traded.  These are the only 4 markets that I trade now (after trading almost every commodity and currency in the world): EUR, SP, GC, JPY.

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... After all timing is important, last I checked! Frankly I don't have a fricking clue as to what happens. Anyone who tells me they are sure which way market will move, is a fool or deranged. This market has baffled much smarter people than me and many others. ...

Good point again!  Timing is much more important than getting a good price.  Entering the market too early, one gets killed.  Entering the market too late, one misses out a big move and that incurs some bigger risk.  Remember ... trading with EW needs to be very cautious.  There is nothing 100%, so you always need to have a back-up plan, which is the alternative wave count.  If someone tells me that s/he is "sure which way market will move" and if the direction is in synch with my predition, I will take a look to see where I might be wrong.  On the other hand, if someone's prediction is in the opposite direction as mine, I will be more confident about my own.

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... Further if you had backed up the truck at least 4-5 times over the past 6 months (maybe more) in some stocks, ETFs and indexes, and nailed it, you could pretty much take the next couple years off and travel the world on a motorcycle.  So who cares about wave count?!  As I recall from my studies, elliot wave is not a science but subject to very broad interpretation as to count.

Oui?

regards,

iceman1 - It will be nice to "travel the world on a motorcycle" like JR.  I wish I could do that and retire earlier.  Over the last 24 years (since 1987), I have got wiped out numerous times ... I cannot even remember how many times.  Good thing now is that I have entered a stable state, so ... I am working on it.  Hopefully, one day, before I become too old, I can pick up a pretty one and say, "are you willing to travel the world on a motorcycle with me?"
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-12-4 03:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 snowrider 于 2011-12-4 15:53 编辑

偶當時甚至找了個物理PhD幫偶把市場數據做傅利葉轉換分析
... 省掉500字
偶還是不想潑搞 FA 的冷水

偶是不知道其他用 TA 的人 "痛" 或不 "痛"
偶是正如你所說的根本不 "care"
其實偶也是有時會 care - 許多的反轉日是反著FA消息的 - 所以如果FA消息大好或大壞偶就要特別注意市場的動向

電視上這麼說:

基本分析比不上技術分析
技術分析比不上政府干預
政府干預比不上內線消息

其實偶認為紙是包不住火的
只要有內線偷跑 圖上多少有端倪 那就回歸到
內線消息躲不過技術分析 - 偶說的
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发表于 2011-12-5 11:54 PM | 显示全部楼层
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雪版12.03spx图中的A plan可行性很大,一个有缺陷不完美的3push,但之后可能不会那么快的下来,可能pullback之后再来个triangle整理再下。
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发表于 2011-12-6 09:27 PM | 显示全部楼层
雪版, updates?
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-12-6 11:58 PM | 显示全部楼层
inosine 发表于 2011-12-5 23:54
雪版12.03spx图中的A plan可行性很大,一个有缺陷不完美的3push,但之后可能不会那么快的下来,可能pullb ...

inosine - Thanks for sharing your thought.  關於上漲之後的走法 偶還沒仔細想 先猜猜它來個崩盤一類的 偶先看看它是否能如期待的上漲
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-12-7 12:02 AM | 显示全部楼层
bucks 发表于 2011-12-6 21:27
雪版, updates?

bucks - 謝謝關注 因為這兩天都是牛皮盤 所以沒有改變看法 若先跌再漲就會大漲 若繼續漲則還是會來回調 所以偶現在長線倉位一直沒變(自從上次倉位報告後) 短線偶則擇機空期指
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