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Cobra 发表于 2011-8-9 12:38
XIU很强,不要急着sell short。你跟着我那个烂洗桶,这段时间不是应该发大了嘛?从顶一直short到现在啊。


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wyemlyy 发表于 2011-8-9 12:53
我仔细看了,其实2days NYADV LOW in 3 days并不ALMOST GURANNTEE LOWER CLOSE IN SHORT TERM, 当然CASE ...



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yao da, do u buy su.to? thanks . how do u think of FCX? thanks. are u goin go to load hxd.to? thanks
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wyemlyy 发表于 2011-8-9 13:02
请教哪里可以看到实时的啊?这个几年前还是个不错的正指

http://www.cboe.com/data/IntraDayVol.aspx

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谢谢,以前没注意到有SP100的  发表于 2011-8-9 12:11 PM
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Jennyahwu 发表于 2011-8-9 12:04
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yao da, do u buy su.to? thanks . how do u think of FCX? thanks. are u goin go ...

Yes,  I just bought a few SU.TO,  for longer term play. ( My sense that crude oil's yesterday movment is kind of bottomed at $80).

Don't see a buy signal on FCX as of today.

I only play XIU.TO,  not the double ETFs.

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发表于 2011-8-9 12:11 PM | 显示全部楼层
Sigh! This is too risky--the global financial market (and economy in turn) can be easily manupilated by just one US rating agency.
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-8-9 12:14 PM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2011-8-9 12:16 PM | 显示全部楼层
The bond market seems quite ignores the stock rally of today.

10Y, 30Y bonds yields don't move much, which makes the stock rally suspecious.
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发表于 2011-8-9 12:20 PM | 显示全部楼层
well, ema20 becomes the resistance ... not good ...
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yaobooyao 发表于 2011-8-9 13:08
Yes,  I just bought a few SU.TO,  for longer term play. ( My sense that crude oil's yesterday movm ...


xom不强啊
俺准备原油$70时抄底
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google 发表于 2011-8-9 12:26
xom不强啊
俺准备原油$70时抄底

这是我买SU.TO 的理由。相对而言,它跌的比较充分了。准备拿到年底。

SU 2011-08-09 bottomed ranged.png

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me too. 市道好了,su比谁都好。  发表于 2011-8-9 12:52 PM

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发表于 2011-8-9 12:33 PM | 显示全部楼层
yaobooyao 发表于 2011-8-9 13:30
这是我买SU.TO 的理由。相对而言,它跌的比较充分了。准备拿到年底。

su确实在支撑位了,Long term是不错的进点
现在主要担心恐慌性杀跌,原油还有一定下行空间

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每年原油都差不多这时候被压,这是一个很好的进货机会。就算套点也没啥,总会上来的。就是挺生气零售价的。期货都跌成这样了,零售价还高企。  发表于 2011-8-9 12:53 PM
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发表于 2011-8-9 12:35 PM | 显示全部楼层
google 发表于 2011-8-9 12:33
su确实在支撑位了,Long term是不错的进点
现在主要担心恐慌性杀跌,原油还有一定下行空间

是啊,个股风险还是很难说。

我现在80% 是XIU.TO,  20% 是RY.TO , SU.TO , in my RRSP account.

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发表于 2011-8-9 12:36 PM | 显示全部楼层
S&P 的dngrade 只是把下跌的两腿合成一腿了.
另外,1-2%GDP对应的S&P点位应该是多少呢?
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发表于 2011-8-9 12:37 PM | 显示全部楼层
靠, 市场就这样半死不活的等会议结果呢..
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发表于 2011-8-9 12:38 PM | 显示全部楼层
Well, below the intraday uptrend line now ...
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发表于 2011-8-9 12:38 PM | 显示全部楼层
很有意思的文章,前财长的看法。
ANDREW ROSS SORKIN, On Monday August 8, 2011, 8:50 pm EDT
It is beginning to feel a lot like 2008 all over again. But it's not the same.

As markets tumble - the Dow Jones industrial average fell 5.6 percent on Monday - it is instructive to hear from someone who knows a thing or two about a financial crisis: Henry M. Paulson Jr., the former Treasury secretary.

And he turns out to be more sanguine about the United States, after the Standard & Poor's downgrade, than some other voices being heard amid the tumult.

"While the players in Washington certainly haven't performed at AAA level, I would certainly take U.S. Treasuries over other AAA sovereigns any day," Mr. Paulson told me.

Yes, there has been much hue and cry over S.&P.'s cut in the credit rating of the United States. But the credit rating downgrade almost seems like a bad joke considering what happened in the bond market: Treasuries rallied as yields fell on Monday to their lowest levels since 2009. In other words, investors felt Treasuries were a safer - yes, safer - bet after S.&P. downgraded them than they were before. (What does that say about S.& P.'s credibility in the bond market?)

The downgrade may point up the enormous challenges facing the country - persistent unemployment and the possibility of slower economic growth is a hard truth that may ultimately force the cost of borrowing to rise for the nation over the long term.

But the downgrade is almost a sideshow compared with the real reason that stocks started falling Monday morning, before panic set in and the momentum of the market took over: the intractable problems in the European Union, which look a lot more like the United States banking crisis circa 2008 than what's happening on this side of the Atlantic now.

Pretend for a moment that countries like Greece, Spain and Italy are our banks in 2008. They are close to insolvent. (And the actual banks in Germany, Britain and France that are supposed to be strong are horribly undercapitalized and are holding too much debt from countries like Greece, Spain and Italy - all countries that truly may not be able to pay it back in full.)

As Mr. Paulson told me, "The most pressing and significant problems in the global economy are unsustainable structural issues with regard to the E.U. - fiscal deficits and the structure of the E.U. itself."

This story might not grab as much attention, but it is this plight that is manifesting itself in the market.

The problem is that without any one individual in charge in Europe, there is virtually no possibility for someone to emerge the way that Mr. Paulson did during the panic of 2008 with a lifeline like the Troubled Asset Relief Program, a plan he practically had to ram down the throat of Congress. (And there's no money for such a program unless a coalition is formed.)

Say what you want about TARP - it was clearly unpopular - but in retrospect, it is hard to argue that it did not keep the economy from going off a cliff. A handful of people with conflicting interests could never come up with such a program. "The E.U. is an odd construct - multiple political systems with disparate economies and fiscal policies but a single currency and monetary system," he said.

Now, just as was the case in the fall of 2008 before Lehman Brothers collapsed, the panicked rumor mill in Europe is in full swing. On Monday, traders were passing along rumors that a French bank and an Italian bank were on the verge of collapse. (There's no evidence that the rumors are true, but the concern is that such chatter can become a self-fulfilling prophesy.)

In Greece, regulators announced a two-month ban on short-selling to prevent investors from betting against stocks. Sounds just like 2008, right?

And when and if there is another bank in Europe - or worse, an entire country - on the precipice, it is unlikely there will be the political will to bail it out. Yes, just like Lehman Brothers.

In the United States, the speculation game jumped the pond. This time it centered on Bank of America, after a report that David Tepper, the founder of the hedge fund Appaloosa Management, had dumped his entire 17-million-share stake in the bank. (In truth, he has sold about 40 percent of his stake.)

Still, Mr. Paulson said he was less worried about the troubles in the financial sector of Wall Street than in Europe. "In the U.S., our capital markets and banks are stable and much better capitalized and better regulated than they were," he said.

But he did suggest that the problems in Europe could be a lesson for us if we didn't get our house in order, echoing a thought that S.&P. made when it downgraded our long-term debt.

"Many of the Western democracies - including the U.S. - have a problem that voters want benefits they don't want to pay for," Mr. Paulson said.

Nonetheless, Mr. Paulson said he actually took some solace in the debate over the debt ceiling, despite its ugliness.

"The good news over the last six months or so - beginning with Bowles-Simpson - is that there is now a much better understanding of what is by far our biggest structural economic problem," he said referring to the Bowles-Simpson bipartisan fiscal commission that looked at ways to cut the deficit.

"Bowles-Simpson was particularly helpful by highlighting the fact that we are such a wealthy country that if we act soon we can deal with this problem with shared sacrifice but without any segment of our society having to sacrifice too much."

Mr. Paulson, a longtime Republican, even appeared to break with party ranks by going so far as to opine that slashing spending wasn't the only answer. "The most discouraging fact is that, as important as expense-cutting is - and it is essential that we cut - we can't just cut our way out of this problem."

His comment implied that a tax overhaul - and the possibility of raising revenue, a prospect that most Republicans have castigated - may need to be on the negotiating table as part of any solution.

Unfortunately, while Mr. Paulson may be bullish on the long-term prospects for the United States and the nation's ability to pay back its debts, he is less convinced that a solution will come anytime soon.

"We need fundamental, structural reform and that is impossible without bipartisan compromise and cooperation," he said, "which doesn't appear to be forthcoming before an election which changes the players."
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发表于 2011-8-9 12:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
胡同人如果比较一下欧美,哪个效率高些?干活卖力点?
据我有限的经验,我觉得老美卖力多了。
当然,老中更卖力。
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本帖最后由 shoujie 于 2011-8-9 12:42 编辑

先提醒一下: 大家等利好消息, 但是要做好出来的结果是令人失望的准备哈...

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水明善 发表于 2011-8-9 13:41
胡同人如果比较一下欧美,哪个效率高些?干活卖力点?
据我有限的经验,我觉得老美卖力多了。
当然,老中 ...

欧洲人节奏是相当的慢啊...
下午除了午餐时间还有个下午茶...
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