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发表于 2010-10-13 04:50 PM | 显示全部楼层


Tomorrow, let's long a speculative transportation stock,

ATSG

very bullish chart pattern, with ...
angelafund 发表于 2010-10-13 03:07



    请问对船运的看法如何呢?是不是也是一段上升波
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-10-14 06:58 AM | 显示全部楼层
Top gainers as of 13Oct2010

TNA 43% (first buy close of 01Sep2010, 1st add 05Oct2010)
DGP 22% (first buy 25Aug2010)
CMG 16% (first buy intra-day of 01Sep2010; 1/3 sold 06Oct2010 11%)
NFLX 16% (first buy intra-day of 01Sep2010, 1/2 profit taken 01Oct2010 @ 18%, 1/4 profit taken 06Oct2010 @ 13%)
EBIX 16% (first buy market open 21Sep2010; 1/2 profit taken 06Oct2010 10%)
BIDU 13% (first buy market open 20Sep2010; 1/2 profit taken 01Oct2010 @ 10%; 1st add 05Oct2010; 1/4 profit taken 06Oct2010 @ 11%)
HLF 12% (first buy 09Sep2010)
ARUN 12% (first buy 30Aug2010, 1st add 1Sep2010; 1/3 profit taken 01Oct2010 @ 15%; 2nd add 05Oct2010; 1/2 profit taken 06Oct2010 @ 11%)
GLD 11% (first buy 25Aug2010)
AGU 5% (first buy market open 11Oct2010 )
NSU 6% (first buy market open 09Oct2010)


sold with profit
NFLX 18%, 13%
ARUN 15%, 11%
BIDU 10%, 11%
EBIX 10%,
REE 9% (first buy pre-market 24Sep2010 --> small position, no biggie; final sale before close 29Sep2010)
ACOM 8% (first buy market open 20Sep2010; sell all 06Oct2010)
TGA 4% (first buy market open 21Sep2010 --> small position, no biggie; final sale before close 29Sep2010)
YGE 2%
IGTE 2%
CRM 1% (first buy intra-day of 01Sep2010, final sale on 28Sep2010; )

cut loss
BORN -14% (no biggie, small position)
GMCR -9% (first buy market open 09Sep2010, sold some 22Sep2010, final sale market open 29Sep2010)
CRUS -8% (first buy intra-day 29Sep2010, add before market close, sold all 01Oct2010)
MELI -8%
VPHM -5%
NANO -5%
TZOO -4% (first buy 29Sep2010; sold all 06Oct2010)
EGO -1% (keep only gld/dgp)

Got a new boy on 10/10/2010 ... so my post will be sporadic. Luck is upon me again? lol

top calling is never a smart move ...

always let the market tell you what it wants to do next ... NOT what you think market will do ...

Market is in a solid uptrend ...
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-10-14 07:50 AM | 显示全部楼层
let's poke a little HTHT

HTHT is on the thin side, so keep the size small
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-10-14 01:46 PM | 显示全部楼层
long ASYS
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-10-14 01:58 PM | 显示全部楼层
long ASYS
angelafund 发表于 2010-10-14 15:46



    excellent market action today.

Market pulls back on low vol and close above mid-point. Nice consolidation.

GOOG nice #s!!!
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-10-14 03:19 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 angelafund 于 2010-10-14 17:22 编辑

Here is my favorite excerpt from Reminisces of a Stock Operator, the biography of the life of legendary trader JESSE LIVERMORE.

Is this the right time to review what a classic trader he is? and on how we should handle stocks in this juncture?


"In Fullerton's there were the usual crowd. All grades! Well, there was one old chap who was not like the others. To begin with, he was a much older man. Another thing was that he never volunteered advice and never bragged of his winnings. He was a great hand for listening very attentively to the others. He did not seem very keen to get tips that is, he never asked the talkers what they'd
heard or what they knew. But when somebody gave him one he always thanked the tipster very politely. Sometimes he thanked the tipster again when the tip turned out O.K. But if it went wrong he never whined, so that nobody could tell whether he followed it or let it slide by. It was a legend of the office that the old jigger was rich and could swing quite a line. But he wasn't donating much to the firm in the way of commissions; at least not that anyone could see. His name was Partridge, but they
nicknamed him Turkey behind his back, because he was so thick-chested and had a habit of strutting about the various rooms, with the point of his chin resting on his breast.

The customers, who were all eager to be shoved and forced into doing things so as to lay
the blame for failure on others, used to go to old Partridge and tell him what some friend
of a friend of an insider had advised them to do in a certain stock. They would tell him
what they had not done with the tip so he would tell them what they ought to do. But
whether the tip they had was to buy or to sell, the old chap's answer was always the
same.

The customer would finish the tale of his perplexity and then ask: "What do you think I
ought to do?"

Old Turkey would cock his head to one side, contemplate his fellow customer with a
fatherly smile, and finally he would say very impressively, "You know, it's a bull market!"

Time and again I heard him say, "Well, this is a bull market, you know!" as though he
were giving to you a priceless talisman wrapped up in a million-dollar accident insurance
policy. And of course I did not get his meaning.

One day a fellow named Elmer Harwood rushed into the office, wrote out an order and
gave it to the clerk. Then he rushed over to where Mr. Partridge was listening politely to
John Fanning's story of the time he overheard Keene give an order to one of his brokers
and all that John made was a measly three points on a hundred shares and of course the
stock had to go up twenty-four points in three days right after John sold out. It was at
least the fourth time that John had told him that tale of woe, but old Turkey was smiling
as sympathetically as if it was the first time he heard it.

Well, Elmer made for the old man and, without a word of apology to John Fanning, told
Turkey, "Mr. Partridge, I have just sold my Climax Motors. My people say the market is
entitled to a reaction and that I'll be able to buy it back cheaper. So you'd better do
likewise. That is, if you've still got yours."

Elmer looked suspiciously at the man to whom he had given the original tip to buy. The
amateur, or gratuitous, tipster always thinks he owns the receiver of his tip body and
soul, even before he knows how the tip is going to turn out.

"Yes, Mr. Harwood, I still have it. Of course!" said Turkey gratefully. It was nice of
Elmer to think of the old chap. "Well, now is the time to take your profit and get in again
on the next dip," said Elmer, as if he had just made out the deposit slip for the old man.
Failing to perceive enthusiastic gratitude in the beneficiary's face Elmer went on: "I have
just sold every share I owned!"

From his voice and manner you would have conservatively estimated it at ten thousand
shares. But Mr. Partridge shook his head regretfully and whined, "No! No! I can't do
that!"

"What?" yelled Elmer.

"I simply can't!" said Mr. Partridge. He was in great trouble.

"Didn't I give you the tip to buy it?"

"You did, Mr. Harwood, and I am very grateful to you. Indeed, I am, sir. But "

"Hold on! Let me talk! And didn't that stock go up seven points in ten days? Didn't it?"

"It did, and I am much obliged to you, my dear boy. But I couldn't think of selling that
stock."

"You couldn't?" asked Elmer, beginning to look doubtful himself. It is a habit with most
tip givers to be tip takers.

"No, I couldn't."

"Why not?" And Elmer drew nearer.

"Why, this is a bull market!" The old fellow said it as though he had given a long and
detailed explanation.

"That's all right," said Elmer, looking angry because of his disappointment. "I know this
is a bull market as well as you do. But you'd better slip them that stock of yours and buy
it back on the reaction. You might as well reduce the cost to yourself."

"My dear boy," said old Partridge, in great distress "my dear boy, if I sold that stock now
I'd lose my position; and then where would I be?"

Elmer Harwood threw up his hands, shook his head and walked over to me to get
sympathy: "Can you beat it?" he asked me in a stage whisper. "I ask you!"

I didn't say anything. So he went on: "I give him a tip on Climax Motors. He buys five
hundred shares. He's got seven points' profit and I advise him to get out and buy 'em
back on the reaction that's overdue even now. And what does he say when I tell him? He
says that if he sells he'll lose his job. What do you know about that?"

"I beg your pardon, Mr. Harwood; I didn't say I'd lose my job," cut in old Turkey. "I said
I'd lose my position. And when you are as old as I am and you've been through as many
booms and panics as I have, you'll know that to lose your position is something nobody
can afford; not even John D. Rockefeller. I hope the stock reacts and that you will be
able to repurchase your line at a substantial concession, sir. But I myself can only trade
in accordance with the experience of many years. I paid a high price for it and I don't
feel like throwing away a second tuition fee. But I am as much obliged to you as if I had
the money in the bank. It's a bull market, you know." And he strutted away, leaving Elmer dazed.

What old Mr. Partridge said did not mean much to me until I began to think about my
own numerous failures to make as much money as I ought to when I was so right on the
general market. The more I studied the more I realized how wise that old chap was. He
had evidently suffered from the same defect in his young days and knew his own human
weaknesses. He would not lay himself open to a temptation that experience had taught
him was hard to resist and had always proved expensive to him, as it was to me.

I think it was a long step forward in my trading education when I realized at last that
when old Mr. Partridge kept on telling the other customers, "Well, you know this is a
bull market!" he really meant to tell them that the big money was not in the individual
fluctuations but in the main movements that is, not in reading the tape but in sizing up
the entire market and its trend.


And right here let me say one thing: After spending many years in Wall Street and after
making and losing millions of dollars I want to tell you this: It never was my thinking
that made the big money for me. It always was my sitting. Got that? My sitting tight!
It
is no trick at all to be right on the market. You always find lots of early bulls in bull
markets and early bears in bear markets. I've known many men who were right at
exactly the right time, and began buying or selling stocks when prices were at the very
level which should show the greatest profit. And their experience invariably matched
mine that is, they made no real money out of it. Men who can both be right and sit tight
are uncommon. I found it one of the hardest things to learn. But it is only after a stock
operator has firmly grasped this that he can make big money. It is literally true that
millions come easier to a trader after he knows how to trade than hundreds did in the
days of his ignorance.


The reason is that a man may see straight and clearly and yet become impatient or
doubtful when the market takes its time about doing as he figured it must do. That is
why so many men in Wall Street, who are not at all in the sucker class, not even in the
third grade, nevertheless lose money.
The market does not beat them. They beat
themselves, because though they have brains they cannot sit tight.
Old Turkey was dead
right in doing and saying what he did. He had not only the courage of his convictions but
the intelligent patience to sit tight."
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发表于 2010-10-14 05:55 PM | 显示全部楼层
Congratulations on the birth of your baby boy!
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发表于 2010-10-14 06:19 PM | 显示全部楼层
Here is my favorite excerpt from Reminisces of a Stock Operator, the biography of the life of legend ...
angelafund 发表于 2010-10-14 17:19



重读一下,还是有收获,谢!
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-10-15 01:25 AM | 显示全部楼层
tomorrow's trades,

buy more BIDU shares to add to my existing BIDU holdings.

BUY opening gap of GOOG.
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-10-15 01:44 PM | 显示全部楼层
tomorrow's trades,

buy more BIDU shares to add to my existing BIDU holdings.

BUY opening gap o ...
angelafund 发表于 2010-10-15 03:25



nice action on Google, i am building a fairly large position on google. I will watch carefully if google can form a short stroke to add more positions in the next few days/weeks ...

HOLD you darn GOOGLE, use today's low as cut loss .. so this is a fairly safe position.
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-10-18 08:37 AM | 显示全部楼层
nice action on Google, i am building a fairly large position on google. I will watch carefully ...
angelafund 发表于 2010-10-15 15:44



    beautiful action on GOOG and BIDU, add more position before close to both if close on HOD ...
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发表于 2010-10-18 08:40 AM | 显示全部楼层
beautiful action on GOOG and BIDU, add more position before close to both if close on HOD  ...
angelafund 发表于 2010-10-18 10:37



  u great!
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-10-18 09:24 AM | 显示全部楼层
bought REE
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-10-18 12:39 PM | 显示全部楼层


great day for fatdaddy ...

came back from hospital and see my acct is green all over ...

nice action on BIDU and GOOG!!!!!

REE is hot, i hope it is not another BORN which shook me out ...
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-10-18 01:16 PM | 显示全部楼层
looks like market is going to close on HOD.

Here is what I do on buying BIDU and GOOD,

sell laggards and take profits on the below,

POT (Sell all, leaving only AGU)
HTHT (sell half to cut some loss)
NSU (sell all to take profits)
GSM (sell all to take profits)
TPCG (sell all to take profits)

Use the fund to buy more GOOG and BIDU.

I am fully invested ...

beautiful market ...  
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-10-18 01:49 PM | 显示全部楼层
In trader1688 dot com, some say i only do paper trading ..

I find it funny people say i do paper trading ...

If you do each of my "paper" trading on your money ... u will make ton of money, so why don't you do it?

If Warren Buffett just open a thread in 168, whenever he buys one stock in his acct, he publishes here, is he doing paper trading as well?

I am domonstrating a superior trading strategy no where can be found  in 1688,  hutong9 or 大千... It is shocking to me that after quite a few cycles only a small group of traders can understand and appreciate ... which confirms my understanding that stock market is only for a small handfuls ... not for the mass ...
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发表于 2010-10-18 06:06 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复 196# angelafund


    Agreed.  "stock market is only for a small handfuls ... not for the mass "

It's hard to sit tight when you just built a position, the market suddenly dropped and your position is in red...
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发表于 2010-10-18 06:25 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复 196# angelafund

LOL, then stop to post. i mean, why bother?
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发表于 2010-10-18 06:28 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 coolgal 于 2010-10-18 22:16 编辑
回复  angelafund

LOL, then stop to post. i mean, why bother?
ppteam 发表于 2010-10-18 20:25



    Nooooooo, don't stop. We'd have one good post less to read.
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发表于 2010-10-18 11:45 PM | 显示全部楼层
In trader1688 dot com, some say i only do paper trading ..

I find it funny people say i do paper ...
angelafund 发表于 2010-10-18 15:49


That is why only small percent of people is making money in the stock market.   By the time you are followed by a large group, you will probably make less or even lose money.
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