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发表于 2009-7-19 05:45 AM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式


发信人: babycrynot (不哭的小孩儿), 信区: Stock
标 题: CIT危机的背后。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jul 18 01:41:11 2009, 美东)

这个CIT最近在街上是沸沸扬扬啊,但是有多少人知道这个CIT危机的背后在酝酿多大的
雪崩吗? CIT这个公司倒了也就倒了,没有什么大不了的,雷曼比他大多了,都倒了,
他为什么就不能倒? 这个CIT危机的背后是金融危机第二季,商业贷款危机。大家经常
听到Circuit City 破产了,GM破产了, 却很少知道过去的一年中有多少中小企业破产
了, guess what, 把这些破产公司的债务加在一起,绝对不比GM欠的少。很多商业贷
款是以楼宇作为抵押的,经济危机来了,公司不但没有生意,楼宇的价值也大大缩水,
公司一旦倒闭,银行要面临大量的坏债,然后就是更多的公司没有钱可以贷,更多的坏
债,更多的公司倒闭,恶性循环。 我相信CIT危机只是这场危机的前奏,如果白宫足够
聪明,应该不会让CIT成为多米诺骨牌的第一张。去年的雷曼效应,我们都看到了,CIT
的倒闭将会引领2009年Holiday Season进入真正的悲惨世界。那时候的成本将会大大超
过现在出手的成本。

我只是想提醒大家,距离真正的经济复苏还早,就像买房子一样,要想房子升值,起码
先要等周围的拍卖屋卖光了再说; 一个国家的经济想要复苏,股市真正往上走,先把
大部分的坏债清干净再说,而现在很明显还不是时候。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-7-19 05:46 AM | 显示全部楼层
发信人: babycrynot (不哭的小孩儿), 信区: Stock
标 题: Re: CIT危机的背后。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jul 18 02:05:47 2009, 美东)

CIT collapse could ripple through retail industry
AP

NEW YORK – The possible collapse of a key lender is sending panic through
the retail industry, threatening to hang up deliveries of back-to-school
clothing and other merchandise and throw holiday ordering into disarray.

A bankruptcy filing by CIT Group would hurl more trouble at an industry
already hammered by the worst spending slump in decades.

The ripple effect could be as simple as a zipper maker that can't rely on
CIT to advance payment for orders. That would then hurt trucking companies
that would ship the zippers and overseas factories that need the zippers to
make dresses. The result could be mounds of zipperless dresses at factories,
piles of goods sitting on docks — and products not making it to store
shelves.

"CIT is like an octopus with its tentacles that reach out to so many
industries and sub-industries," said Jeffrey Knopman, a principal at Profit
Solutions Group, which helps suppliers recover chargeback money from
merchants.

A primary business of CIT is short-term financing, mostly to small- to
medium-sized businesses that can't afford to wait the 60 to 90 days it takes
to get paid for shipments to retailers.

This business, known as "factoring," also guarantees that suppliers get paid
by the merchants. Without that guarantee, suppliers would have to ship
goods at their own risk.

As the prospect of a CIT bankruptcy filing loomed, industry trade groups
increased their pitch to lawmakers to prevent the collapse of CIT, which
they say would imperil their small-business members and derail the already
fragile economy.

"This is a potential crisis for Main Street," said Kevin Burke, president
and chief executive of the American Apparel and Footwear Association. "The
industry is already battling less inventory and battling a recession. If you
can't get the product, how do you get consumers into the store?"

Bud Konheim, president of designer dress firm Nicole Miller, said any
disruption in manufacturing caused by a lack of financing could shut down
the pipeline for new goods. His company depends on CIT to finance its
fabrics.

"Everybody is frantically thinking about what could happen," said Konheim."
CIT reaches everybody in the business, from the fabric guy to the zipper guy
. If we can't get the zippers, we can't make the item. One little thing can
stop the whole process."

New York-based CIT serves as factor to about 2,000 vendors that supply
merchandise to 300,000 stores, according to Craig Shearman, spokesman at the
National Retail Federation. Analysts say 60 percent of the apparel industry
depends on CIT for financing, so other lenders taking up all the slack
would pose a big financial strain.

Any disruption in financing couldn't happen at a worse time for retailers.
Stores have slashed inventory to respond to lower demand, and this holiday,
analysts expect inventories to be down as much as 20 to 30 percent. Shearman
said that if suppliers can't finance their orders, consumers will see even
fewer choices in the stores.

Furthermore, he noted that if vendors can't get their financing, some
retailers may have to pre-pay for orders, which could put more financial
pressure on them.

Federal official negotiating with CIT knew a collapse would affect the
economy, a Treasury spokeswoman said Thursday. But because the company had
scaled back lending in previous months, she said, the economic hit would not
be as bad as some earlier predictions suggested.

Retail industry insiders argue that with other lenders already under
financial strain, many CIT clients may lose their financing options. That
could lead to another flurry of bankruptcies.

Harold Reichwald, an attorney in Los Angeles with the firm Manatt, Phelps &
Phillips, said CIT has been refusing requests from manufacturers to withdraw
credit balances — the equivalent of bank deposits, except that they are
not federally insured.

Already many of CIT's clients were scrambling to find other financing. But
Andrew Jassin, co-founder of apparel consultant Jassin-O'Rourke Group LLC,
noted that doing that takes time even for the financially healthy.

Melissa Savarino, owner of a Houston-based children's wear maker that has
CIT as a factor, said she is trying to find other financing from places like
Wells Fargo, but it's been difficult.

She noted that she panicked after not getting $11,000 from CIT on Wednesday,
though the funding was restored the next day. Next week, she starts buying
fabric for the holiday season but may have to be more conservative with her
orders.

"If CIT stops funding our business, and there is no one else to replace it,
then I can't go on," she said.

Harry Kazazian, CEO of privately held Exxel Outdoors Inc., the top U.S.
maker of sleeping bags, said that he withdrew as much of the company's money
as he could from CIT on Monday.

Kazazian is worried that the absence of federal help will have big
consequences.

"How could they leave these sectors twisting in the wind?"
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-7-19 05:46 AM | 显示全部楼层
发信人: KeepBuying (老牛哥), 信区: Stock
标 题: Re: CIT危机的背后。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jul 18 22:59:41 2009, 美东)

还是上周会你的那句话,屁股决定脑袋。一个CIT根本没那么大的影响力。
企业破产正常,这就是一个洗牌效应,适者生存,被淘汰的肯定是因为不能适应市场的
变化,那么就要让步于强者。因此,经济的复苏是看得到,并不因为很多小企业倒闭而
会止步。

中国去年好多中小企业倒闭了,中国的经济退步了么?
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-7-19 05:46 AM | 显示全部楼层
发信人: babycrynot (不哭的小孩儿), 信区: Stock
标 题: Re: CIT危机的背后。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jul 19 00:02:14 2009, 美东)

屁股和脑袋是一回事,只有一个领导,你的屁股不听脑袋的吗?

我不觉得美国的经济在复苏,只是变差的速度降低了,还是看GDP数据吧。

【 在 KeepBuying (老牛哥) 的大作中提到: 】
: 还是上周会你的那句话,屁股决定脑袋。一个CIT根本没那么大的影响力。
: 企业破产正常,这就是一个洗牌效应,适者生存,被淘汰的肯定是因为不能适应市场的
: 变化,那么就要让步于强者。因此,经济的复苏是看得到,并不因为很多小企业倒闭而
: 会止步。
: 中国去年好多中小企业倒闭了,中国的经济退步了么?
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-7-19 05:47 AM | 显示全部楼层
发信人: samttorn (sam), 信区: Stock
标 题: Re: CIT危机的背后。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jul 19 02:28:40 2009, 美东)

美国的comercial banks本来都不大,Obama政府也不至于吃素,有了雷曼的先例,好歹
会评估CIT bankrupcy对全局的影响。Citi, BAC,WFC从性质上都是retailer banks,
都有investment banking services业务,二季的盈利都会top estimated。银行上涨空
间不大是因为前段时间涨太多了,而且现在的盈利是由于经纪业务all times high,这
跟2季度股市大幅上扬是分不开的,所以可持续性是没有的;糟糕的是unemployment
rate导致的loans损失还在扩大,商业贷款即使当时金融稳定的时候都没有好转过,有
代表性的是BB&T, fifth third,这两个可比CIT大多了。

如果公司earnings reports还像上周一样猛,指数突破8800也是一点悬念都没有的
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