全职炒股

xiaobailong

看到mitbbs的yyber（也就是胡同的***）同学说要全职炒股，很多人劝他不要这么做，也有人鼓励他应该试试。其实我认为最有说服力的应该是过来 人的经验。 有过全职炒股经验的人，来说说自己的经历吧？ 不知道这个算不算触犯隐私，大家也不用发言，愿意投票的来投个票就好了。
[ 本帖最后由 xiaobailong 于 2008-6-23 07:15 编辑 ]

yager

小白龙你真行，居然把yyber从这里挖出来了。

xiaobailong

啊？ 他公开的啊。 要不然我改掉吧。

javamood

最厉害的坑， 是跨网站的国际坑， 真他妈厉害

reffo

我老， 曾经全职炒股，平均年收入超过一份普通的工作, 又重新回去工作，兼职炒股做得不错，从来没想过全职炒股。

LDK

这个, 还有比例的问题. 平均年收入超过一份普通的工作, 要多少本金呢?

biorjin

try it for half a year. if he can consistantly make money and still likes to do it, I will say why not.

biorjin

10k is enough for DT option. if you can average 300-500 per day, that is 60k-100k per year.

 

原帖由 LDK 于 2008-6-22 19:47 发表 这个, 还有比例的问题. 平均年收入超过一份普通的工作, 要多少本金呢?

xiaobailong

原帖由 reffo 于 2008-6-22 19:17 发表 我老， 曾经全职炒股，平均年收入超过一份普通的工作, 又重新回去工作，兼职炒股做得不错，从来没想过全职炒股。:" />

第五项至今还没人选，我稍微修改了一下，现在比较适合你的情况了吧

ppteam

for DT, I guess trading future (or major ETF) is more stable than trading individual stocks. For example, if your salary is $120k ($10k a month), and you wanna quit and do full time DT instead, basically you have to make 20% more to cover health insurance, retirement benefit, etc. That's about $144k. There are 2 weeks public holidays a year, and certainly you need vacation time as well, say 2 weeks. Now you have 48 weeks left. You need to make $144k/48/5 = $600 every single trading day. It's not hard, but it's not easy also. For future DT, you don't need that much capital, I guess the margin requirement is $2k for each contract (ES/YM/NQ), much cheaper than stock trading.

undeadrogue

Its hard, and its extremely hard. 全职炒股就是通往地狱之门，只有极少的人能够炼狱重生。如果有个好的普通工作还是老实工作了，不要自找困苦。

tnak

to biorjin: 10k is even not qualified for DT. will it be different for option trader? to ppteam: in order to trade futures, the account size has to be over 100k, doesn't it?

coexist

原帖由 ppteam 于 2008-6-23 22:32 发表 for DT, I guess trading future (or major ETF) is more stable than trading individual stocks. For example, if your salary is $120k ($10k a month), and you wanna quit and do full time DT instead, bas ...

plus ESPP, flexible spending account... lots of benefit...

ppteam

No, your future account doesn't have to be more than $100k. but I don't think the current market environment is good for future trading beginners. It's easy to double or lose 50% in short time.

kellyluo

One ES point is equivalent to $50. So one contract costs near $50 K.

vcchina

只有全职炒股者可谓“高手”。其它仅可谓“玩手”而已

dividend_growth

如果只有1万能用来炒，还是老老实实的上班算了。

undeadrogue

starting fund is important, but its no critical. a lot of real HHs built up millions with humble beginnings. for instance, PSP dude said he started it out with lilo more than 10k, and made that into 10M in about 3 years i guess.

原帖由 dividend_growth 于 2008-12-21 22:20 发表 如果只有1万能用来炒，还是老老实实的上班算了。

90ufo

For example, if your salary is $120k ($10k a month), and you wanna quit and do full time DT instead, bas ...
ppteam 发表于 2008-6-23 21:32

Another factor:  you don't need to pay social security +medicare tax (~10K/year).  I don't know, maybe there are some future benefits if you pay those taxes.
Your short-term capital gains tax rate will equal to your ordinary income tax rate. so no tax relief there.

I dug up this old topic, because my company is planning another round of layoff.   Sigh....
In today's job market, you maybe be forced to 全职炒股.  But when you have a job, trading stock is only a supplement income, 小赌怡情.  When trading is your only source of income, then it's tremendous pressure to make profit, this pressure may affect your judgement and performance.

hxx437

the tax incomes on future is kind of different than stocks income. it is about 60% long term tax + 40% short term tax.